Where would I be now, had I “worked” with Gordon Lish? He was an absolute amazement for me. I think I’ve recounted briefly “literally sitting at his feet,” at a fiction–oh, shit, what would we call it? retreat? in Indiana. Three days. We met at a woman’s house. Sat in her living room floor around him. He said he could talk for hours, and we were free to get up and go to the bathroom, or if we had to indulge in the nasty habit, smoke, but he made it clear we would miss something if we did. I never got up to smoke, but I think I did get up once to go to the bathroom. Who knows what I missed?
I never worked for Lish, except for working hard on the “stuff” he proposed. Somewhere in this house, I have a blue canvas notebook with my notes of my time there. I sat with Lish two times. The time I just partially described, the second in a classroom at the University in Indiana. I think I mentioned before, across the aisle from me, Gary Lutz, and on the other aisle and one seat forward, Barton Allen. I think Michael Kimball was in my first sitting. I think he may have been 17 or so then.
Jesus, jesus, jesus! Just to sit there! Just to hear Lish talk. Honestly, his words came into my head, into my heart. My experience there colored every writerly notion I had inside me. And his admonishment: Do you have the sand to dare stand the test of time? You’re up against Shakespeare! You’re up against the Bible!
In little moments I try.
I did have a conversation on the phone with Gordon, when I was in NYC my first time with Saks. I was terrified to try to call him. I sat while they passed it through. He talked for several minutes, said things like, “if you need directions, ask anyone, we all love to help folks find their way around.” He was right. Toward the end of our conversation, he said, “What must you do? You must go to (I may not get this exactly right, it has been many years) Portabello Road, a little Italian restaurant on Thomas in the Village. You must order “Sole Bocca Des,” it isn’t on the menu. Tell them Gordon sent you.” I did. I still remember the taste and feel of it in my mouth. Honestly, the best thing I’ve ever tasted.
The thing I most remember? In a short, short note rejecting once again something I’d sent him, he said, “Don’t ever let anyone tell you you can’t have your speech.”
I think that may have been the day I started talking.
